FOR ALL WHO READ THIS BEFORE JUST SKIP DOWN TO THE COMMENTS SECTION TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THE POSTING BY A YOUNG MAN WHO HAS THE SITE "THIS AIN'T HELL BUT YOU CAN SEE IT FROM HERE" AND HAS CHOSEN TO REMAIN NAMELESS. I AM VERY GRATEFUL NOW FOR HIS ATTACKS ON MYSELF AS THEY HAVE LED TO MY BEING HELPED IN WAYS I NEVER FELT WERE POSSIBLE.
I came across this posting that basically was, it seems, a group of young folks tearing into a man who they feel misrepresented his service record while on the campaign trail.
Please follow this link: THIS AIN'T HELL ... BUT YOU CAN SEE IT FROM HERE
It is my wish that everyone who has served in the Vietnam Campaign add a comment to set this generation of "Nancy boy" character assassinators straight. It seems there are many people today who know more about what other people had done forty or so years ago than the folks who were actually there doing it all!
The following was my "two cents" that I posted. It appears this article was over a year old so I am a little late but here it is anyway!
I see a lot of confusing remarks that seem to be coming from individuals who have never had the “privilege” of being “government property” and following orders from superiors you must obey but sometimes you just do not trust.
I was also ordered to follow a certain protocol upon separation from the NAVY similar to what I read here, no travel to the “offending” countries and no divulging my experiences to any “public institution”. Whatever that exactly means! There was more but not related to the comments or the article here.
I do not understand where some of you people get your information from. Do you just google it? If so you are being deprived of the thrill of having ever dealt with some “dick waving” a****** who is completely lost to military mind sets and conditioning and so therefor will order you to do and act in ways that can not be discovered with an internet search!
It is disheartening to read some of the comments here as it is clear you have never served back in a time when it was acceptable to ignore a persons civil rights and physically abuse them if need be to perfect order and compliance with military “rules”. Yes “Nancy boy’s” they could beat your ass bloody and you had recourse none! If you defended yourself you would be slapped with a insubordination writ, court marshaled and sent to the brig.
Things were different and it is a matter of fact that if you served in any branch of the military during the Vietnam Campaign you were issued a “National Defense” medal that made you a “Vietnam Era” Serviceman! You did not have to have been in any of the many countries in support of the Vietnam Campaign or in Vietnam at all. You would still be “Vietnam Era” Serviceman. There were no Servicewomen then, in fact you called a superior officer who was female “Sir”! There was no feminist b******* back then so do not bother to correct my use of the title Serviceman. We were all called Serviceman, nobody cared about what sex you were back then. Race was an issue, gender was not.
It was not my intention to educate any of you “know it all’s” but to simply put in the “two cents” from a sailor who was actually there, in SPECOPS and did have some of his records burned in the Indiana NAVPRS depot fire in 1973. I know who I am and what I did. To be honest I am relieved that no one can ever prove now that I committed these acts and deeds as some of them were nothing to be proud of enough to want to take credit for.
Good luck with your “character assassinating”, it seems to be what this generation does best. If you can not “do” then criticize those who “did” so no one will notice that you are not even interesting enough to make people sick.
GEORGES,F. B170696 W-1 United States NAVY
SPECOPS/EOM-NSA IV CORPS Vietnam Support Unit-Thailand
Well here we are again Mr Lilyea. Yet another benefit that I would not have had if you had not doubted my service to America. Because of you I now have a $6,000 pair of high tech hearing aids!
I hope you continue to falsely accuse others so they are urged to show you and your little band of cyber terrorists who go out of your way to defame veterans that sometimes you are wrong to do so.
For the "back story" to this comment I urge all who read this to go to the site created by this young man who feels he knows everything and is quick to cite others for their service to their country.
For those of you who wish to visit Mr. Lilyea click on this link :JONN LILYEA FACEBOOK PAGE
As I told you Mr. Lilyea... you need to calm down and be patient and at some point the government will get around to the responsibility it has to all of it's citizens.
Again, as always... I thank you.
LATEST ADDITION TO THE MANY UNEXPECTED AND UNSOLICITED BENEFITS GLEANED AS A RESULT OF JOHN LILYEA'S INVESTIGATION OF MY LIFE. Thank you sir! Keep up the good work.
HERE IS YET ANOTHER GIFT TO MYSELF THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE RECEIVED IF NOT FOR THE ATTACKS ON MY RECORD BY JONN LILYEA.
THANK YOU JONN ! ( Do you still think all I did was work on that sub tender in New London Mr. Lilyea?)